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TO ; ) Director, FBI - Attention; Assistant 85 1947
Director D. M. LADD |
_ SAC, San Francisco ae >

suByect™ \/f LYING DIscs .__-

hea is made to my letter to the Bureau dated July 28, 1947
, entitled as above forwarding a copy of a report furnished to me by Lieutenant
\Colonel DONALD SPRINGER, A-2, Fourth Air Force, Hamilton Field, California, set~
ting forth the results of inquiries made by his office concerning the reported

> atm of flying dises. j
4 As of further interest to the Bureau in this regard, enerh RAAT.

mitted herewith photostatic copies of three letters dated August 4, 1947 %

entitled "Investigation of Flying Disos," furnished to me by Major WILLIAM R.
GRAHAM, Deputy AC of S, A-2, Army Air Forces, Hamilton Field, California, who is
acting in the absence of Lieutenant Colonel SPRINGER, enclosing copies of reports
of additional reported sightings of flying discs by persons in Oregon and Arizona, —
together with the results of their investigations in that regard.

It is noted that these investigations were conducted prior to the
time Bureau instructions were issued that our own Bureau would conduct inquiries
into the reported sightings of flying dises.
&
Copies of these reports are being forwarded to thé Porti a
Phoenix Offices for the completion of their files in connection with this subject.

HMK :emb

Enclosures - 3

cc Portland (with enclosures - 3)
Phoenix (with enclosures - 3)

EXANOARD FORM NO. 64

j Office Memorandum + UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT

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: DIRECTOR; BI DATE: August 13, 1947

sacs NEWARK

SUBJECT: FLYING DISC REPORTED AT

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HACKENSACK, NEW JERSEY
AUGUST 3, 1947 - MISCELLANEOUS

Reference is made to the teletype from the Newark Division
to the Bureau dated August 4, 1947 stating tnat a "Flying Disc" had
been reported to been seen at Hackens { New Jersey on August 3
last by one CHARLES)@ASELIA, JR. and (ELIAS IRUEX.

CHARLES CASELLA, JR., 287 Euclid Avenue, Hackensack, upon
interview by Special Agent ARTHUR F. WILLIAMS of this Division, stated
that on August 3 he had been standing with WILLIAM TRUEX, a soldier
stationed at Fort Dix, observing a "ham" radio rig atop a two-story
house on Simons Avenue, Hackensack. It was approximately 7:45 pem.,
and they were in this vicinity for the purpose of meeting TRUEX's
girlfriend, one JOYCE Mc FAKLAND.

TRUEX commented to CASELIA that a child had apparently
lost its balloon. CASELLA looked and about a block or a halt block
away noticed a round, black object moving from south to north and
east of the stop where he and TRUEX were standing. CASELIA noticed
that it was moving too fast to be an ordinary balloon, but he could
not discern whether it was globular in form or a disc. He said it
was about thirty to forty inches in diameter moving north in a hori-
zontal plane about two hundred yards above the top of the hill at
Summit Avenue and Simons Avenue. It proceeded at a steady rate,
emitted no rays, and was moving fast enougn to require tnem to turn
tneir heads steadily in order to follow it. ‘TRUEX's girlfriend came
out about fifteen seconds after they first sighted it. They pointed
it out to her, and she said that it looked like a bird on tne horizon
so small. It faded out of sight shortly thereafter. CASELIA said
that a line dravm along its apparent course of flight would go from
the vicinity of Bendix, New Jersey to a point west of Westwood, New
Jersey.

CASELLA also said that a man on the porch across tne street
also noticed it and pointed 1t out to tne women. CASELIA said that
this man seemed excited but did nothing about it.

CASELLA said tnat he was positive it was no optical illusion.
le was not facing into the sun and saw the object clearly. He also
said tnat ne would have thought notning of it except for tne speed at
which it was traveling.

NOV 18 1904

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letter to Bureau August 13, 1947

Miss JOYCE Mc FARLAND, 476 Simons Avenue, upon interview
by Special Agent WILLIAMS, stated that the event in question occurred
at about 7:30 on tne evening of Sunday, August 3. She said that she
was in the house when CASELLA or TRUEX cailed to her. She went out
immediately, and they pointed out the object in question. She saw
it just before it disappeared over tne horizon, but she declared that
it was in view from that time for approximately one minute. She said
it was round and silver-blue in color and appeared to be revolving.
She said that she did not recall making any comment that it might have
been a bird and herself had no idea of wnat it could be. In view of
tne distance from which she noticed it, she said tnat it could not
have been more than six inches in diameter but would have been much
larger it she had been near to it. Miss Mc FARLAND said that sne had
never seen anything like it before.

She said that across tne street the BOOTHS, mother and
daughter, were the only people sitting on tne porcn and she, herself,
did not notice anyone pointing toward the opject in question. The

only other person around, to her knowledge, was GLORIA TRUEX, sister
of WILLIAM TRUEX, wno remained in the house and did not see the object
at all.

Mrs. WINFIELD S. BOOTH, 459 Simons Avenue, stated that she
was on the porch on tne evening in question with her mother but did
not notice any unusual object in the sky nor had any man been present
there to point out the opject in question.

The following information was received from IRUEX through
interview by Special Agent T. HOWARD WALDRON:

Private WILLIAM A. TRUEX, RA 12282003, Company G, 2nd Bat-
talion, 47tn Infantry Regiment, 9th Division, Fort Dix, New Jersey,
advised he was born April 12, 1930 at Jersey City, New Jersey and
completed eight and one nalf years of school. He enlisted in the
United States Army on llay 29, 1947. His mother is Mrs. GRACE FIELDS
of 88 Wales Avenue, River Edge, Bergen County, New Jersey. TRUX
stated that on Sunday, August 3, 1947, at 8:00 p.m, he was standing
outside the home ot his girlfriend, Miss JOYCE Mc FARLAND, 4'/8 Simons
Avenue, Hackensack, New Jersey, accompanied by CHARLES CASELIA of 287
Euclid Avenue, Hackensack, New Jersey, who is his sister's fiance.

He said tnat he and CASELLA were looking at the radio antenna ona
home near the 47% Simons Avenue address wnen they noticed an object

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Letter to Bureau August 13, 1947

about two to three feet in diameter moving rapidly about two hundred
yards off tne ground. TRUEX said he thought at first it was a child's
balloon, but when he noticed there was no wind and tne object had no
strings to it, he decided it was sometning else. He stated the object
was moving in a steady, straight path, going nortn, and he said there
was no exhaust or indication of any motive power for the object.

TRUEX said they observed tne object for fifteen or twenty seconds. He
could not give a description of tne object's color or the materiai it
was composed of but said it looked more like a large, flat child's cup
than anything else he could think of, as the object was oval on the
top and came to a point on the bottom side. ‘TRUEX said tnat CASELLA
stated "Maybe it's a flying saucer". He said he had never seen any-
thing move through the air quite like this object, and he had no idea
where it came from.

TRUEX stated that neither he nor CASELIA had had anything to
drink, and there was sutficient light for them to observe tne object
very clearly.

The "Flying Disc" was reported by CASELLA to Sergeant JAMES
PERONE of the Hackensack Police Department. Sergeant PERONE advised
the writer that his Department had taken no further action nor had
they received reports of the object in question from any other source.
It may be noted that no other Police Department in the vicinity has
brought to tne attention or this Division any information regarding
this matter.

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U.S. DEPARTRERT OF JUSTICE
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,DIRECTOR, FBI SE BS Meee

UNSUBS, RAYMOND EDWARD/LAND, MRS. LAURSXL NFORMATN Li,
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DISC, MISC. INFO RECEIVED FROM DOW. CHEMICAL COMPANY, 10.

MICHIGAN, THAT ON JULY TEN LAST RAYMOND EDWARD LANE AN EMPLOYEE
OF DOW AND SUBSIDIARY SINCE ABOUT NIN N TWENTY TWO, BROGUTH SOME i
MATERIAL TO THEIR PHYSICS LABORATORY STATING THAT ABOUT FIVE een
PM JULY NINE LAST HE AND WIFE, LAURA LANE, WERE WALKING IN A
OWNED BY DOW AND ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET AWAY HEARD A PUFF NOISE, TURNED
AND SAW A BALL OF WHITE ABOUT THE SIZE OF A BUSHEL BAKET BURNING ABOUT
A FOOT OFF THE GROUND. THE FIRE DIED OUT IMMEDIATELY AND LANE LATE.
SCOOPED UP A THREE INCH AREA OF FUSED SAND INTO A CAN AND TOOK THIS, TO
THE PHYSICS LAB. BOTHL€OMPLAINANTS INTERVIEWED. RAYMOND TEKLING SUB-
STANTIALLY SAME STORY BUT WIFE RELUCTANT TO TALK AND VERY INDEFINITE
ON WHAT HAPPENED. THERE ARE MAKRED DISCREPANCIES IN THEIR STORY.
DOW AUTHORITIES: \CONSEDERED STORY FANTASTIC BUT HAVE EXAMINED MATERIAL
AND STATE CONTENTS {TO’ BE ORDINARY SAND, NOT RADIO ACTIVE , BUT GIVING
OFF AMMONIA GASyitA SMALL SILVER NUCcET) ALSO iia Be XS5ET FOR SAND af.
MISED IN IT NOT RADIO ACTIVE, MELTED an nize £S OF!

IA ODOR, AND LITTLE DROPLETS OF SILVER MEURRD pol ae. AND SOME

ER GRAYISH COLOR IN MATERIAL WHICH IS RADIO banfe LEVEL OF

RADIO ACTIVITY EXTREMELY LOW AND EMPLOYEE Mery {PLOYED BY GOVERN-

ME T AT LOS SOS Pee est STATES FUSED SAND HAS SOME CHARACTERISIC

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KNOWLEDGE OF CHEMISTRY AND PHYS FROM EMPLOY? r AT " LAND
DESCRIBED AS VERY PECU
OFFICERS, TED IN AND ELECTRICITY. LANE IS WHITE,
BORN MAY SEVE N EN NAUGHT AT FREESOIL, MICHIGAN, FIVE
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AT SELFRIDGE FIELD, MICHIGAN,

HAVE BEEN ADVISED. E F B l t AL FORWARDED TO FBI

LABORATORY FOR EXAMINATION.

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CORRECTION LINE ONE WORD FOUR SHOULD RAXXX

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STANDARD FORM NO. 64 r }

vf Office Memorandum 's UNITED = GOVERNMENT

TO : Mr, Ladd DATE: August 8, 197

FROM : J. P. Coyne

SUBJECT: UNKNOWN SUBJECT,
Raymond Edwar‘ ey
Mrs. Laura/[ane - Informants;
FLYING DISC
MISCELLANEOUS

There is attached a memorandum setting forth the pertinent 5

information received by the Detroit Office from Raymond Edward Lene and
Mra, Laura Lane relative to "flying discs."

RECOMMENDATION :

It is recommended that this material be personally delivered by i - 7
the Liaison Section to the appropriate contact in the War Department.

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WASH§ FROM CGO. 88-47 800 PM / ae “ey
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Ae ine DISC SIGHTED BY MRS, ROBERFt I TTLE, SECURITY we 5
CHICAGO HERALD AMERICAN TODAY REPORTED THAT LITTLE OF SIX THREE TWO
SEVEN HARPER AVENUE CHICAGO REPORTED SEEING A DISC THREE THIRTY AM
TODAY SAILING ABOVE LAKE MICHIGAN OFF JACKSON PARK BEACH, LITTLE
UNAVAILABLE FOR INTERVIEW TODAY. FATHER IN LAW JOSEPH REINER,
SIX THREE TWO SEVEN HARPER AVENUE, ADVISED LITTLE SIGHTED DISC OVER

A MONTH AGO AND SHE IS EIGHTEEN YEARS OF AGE, NO FURTHER INQUIRY .
CONTEMPLATED. RECORDHP

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SAC, Chicago August ®, 194

Director, FBI

FLYING DIs¢s

Bes go CORRE?

/ The War Department has furnished this Bureau with tie: teldemns,
- telegram dated duly 5 at New York, New Yorks

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x "FOR FURTHER DETAILS CONCER
IMMEDIATE Cow ANT re Re
ILLINOIS NHO
D THEIR ORIGIN.

The War partment has furnished a memorandum entitled "Report on
Flying Saucers", dated July 7, 1947 » addressed to Commanding General, 32d AAF
Base Unit, Bolling Field, Washington, D. ¢., from John D. aatiprte eY Jre, two
copies of ch are attached. The War Department has stated that the incidents
referred to in the attached memorandum are in the general vicinity of Lily Lake,
which was given as the address of Richard F. Shaver in the above telegr

It is, therefore, desired that the Chicago Field Division conduct
appropriate inquiries regarding Shaver, and in the rete such ae do
not reveal information indicating that nould not t he
should be interrogated for any info i bi ela > flyin
discs. It is desired that this uz r be han s00n as possibile and
the Bureau promptly advised.

Enclosure

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Offig Memoranaum * UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT

IO Shey, eee par; 16 July 47
From ; WDGS, US BRANCH
_suBJEcT: RICHARD F.

1, Attached hereto:
a. Copy of it |
it is indicated that oI Lilly Lake,
formation concerning the origi ne-"flying saucer:
b, Copy of a report on flying saucers I
witnesses while flight in two airplanes over southerr
c. Map with indications as to proximity of the locations

am received by ? 47,in whic!

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flying saucers were reported to have been se r lation to Lily Lake,I11

that the time
2. In view of tk fact/the observa r was made

corresponds closely with the date the u ram, and considering

the proximity of Lily Lake to the points w e the objects were observed,
it is requested that Mr Shavekbe inve jetermi nether not

he has information perta to t

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NEWYORK NY JUL 5
MAJOR Pave thnion a
AAF HOTS WASHDC
FOR FURTHER DETAILS CONCERNING FLYING DISKS SUGGEST
IMMEDIATE CONTACT OF MR. RICHARD F SHAVER LILY LAKE

ILLINOIS WHO MAY HAVE IMPORTANT INFORMATION CONCERNING

THEIR ORIGIN
UNSIGNED
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SUBJECT: Report on Flying Saucers.

®; Coumanding General
32a AAF Base Unit
Bolling Field
Washington, D. C.

1. FPollowingere statistics regarding reports by four
witnesses while in flight in two airplanes.

2- Weather CAYU. Visibility exceptionally goode Seat-
tered altocumlus 6000 feet.

3. First revortstime 1145 hours CST. Alt. of observers
800 feet above the ground. Altitude of saucer 4000 feb} MSL.
Observedeperiod - First sighted over Keshkonong, Wisconsin.
Flight was observed from town of Koshkenogg to Zikhorn, Wisconsin.
This flight covered twenty-five (25) miles in fifteen (15) seconds,
which is a speed of six thougand ( ) miles per hour.

4. Second reports fime 130 hours CS%. Altitude of observers
thirty-five hundred feet (3500) MSL. Altitude of saucer twenty-five
lundred feet (2500). Observation period. Observers at Hast Troy,
Wisconsin, flight observed from Ragle, Wisconsin te Muskego, Wisconsin.
This flight covered twenty-two (22) miles in twenty (20 seconds, which
is a spped of three thousand nine hudred sixty (3960) miles per hours

5e Flight maneuvers: First observation~saucer descended vertically
edgewlse through altocumlus clouds, stopped at four thousand (11000)
feet and assumed horizontal position and proceeded in horizontal flight
from a horizontal position for fifteen (15) seconds covering twenty-
five (25) miles and again stopped and disagpeared. § econd observation:
Observed in horizontal flight in a horizontal attitude for « period of
twenty (20) seconds covering twenty-two (22) miles. By the time the
pilet had removed his camera from the glove compartment of his plans,
the saucer disappeared and again om approximately ten (10) miles
farther along its couree after six (6) seconds making its final dis-
appearances

6. fhe first two observers were an instructor and a student, having
just taken off from Mikhorn Airport. The second two observers, one

being Gap't. Re J. Southey» Wing Supply Officer and a passenger.

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FBI SEATTLE 7-13 PM PST Mr © QoKLSmn
“DIRECTOR FBI URGENT cone
Ciuyine_bises, Se Me = Xe RETEL PORTLAND TO DIRECTOR , SAN F
AND SEATTLE AUGUST FIVE LAST. INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS MCCORD FIELD,
WN., ADVISE THAT IN THEIR @@@MM OPINION AND FROM THEIR INVESTIGATION
THERE IS NO QUESTION OF THE CRASH OF THE B= TWENTYFIVE AT KELSO, WNe
WRB APPROXIMATELY TWO FIFTY Aw Me , AUGUST ONE LAST HAVING BEEN CAUSED
BY ANY SABOTAGE. THEY STATE THEIR INVESTIGATION INDICATES THE LEFT
ENGINE BURNED OUT AN EXHAUST STACK WHICH CAUSED THE WING TO BURN AND
BREAK OFF. THE LEFT WING AS IT SMM BROKE OFF TORE OFF THE TAIL AND
THE PLANE CRASHED INTO THE GROUND KILLING CAPT. DAVIDSON AND LT. BROWN
INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS OF THE FOURTH AIR FORCE WHO WERE RETURNING FROM
MCCORD FIELD, WN., TO HAMILTON FIELD, CALIFBORNIA. THE CREW CHIEF AND
A HITCHHIKER PARACHUTED TO SAFETY FROM THE PLANE. ONLY FOUR MEMBERS
WERE ABOARD THE PLANE, DAVIDSON AND BROWN BEING PILOT AND CO- PILOT

AND HAD NO CHANCE TO ESCAPE WHEN THE WING BROKE OFF. LT. COL. DONALD

RECORD

HAMILTON FIELD, CALIFORNIA, ADVIS Be TRAMs oxen AND

WERE SENT FROM HAMILTON FIELD TO INTERVIEW HAROLD’ 4 DAHL AND FRED

MGRISMAN AT TACOMA, WNe, REGARDING THEIR REPORT OF, SEEBING SOME FLYING

L. SPRINGER, A- TWO ARER@GRISHY OFFICER FOR THE FOURTH oa FOR
,

DISCS OVER MAURY ISLAND, WN., AND THAT THEY NED SOME OF ces DISC

FRAGMENTS. CRISMAN AND eee ae PARTNERS “IN A LUMBDER BUSINEBSS AT

L) 2 copies prsrnoyep
TACOMA, WAHINGTON. 270. NOV 18 1964

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CAPTAIN DAVIDSON AND LT. BROWN ON THURSDAY, JULY QBS THIRTYFIRST
LAST INTERVIEWED DAHL, CRISMAN, KENNETHYARNOLD , FROM BOISE, IDAHO,
WHO WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THAT REPORTED SEENING FLYING DISCS AND EMIL

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H@*SMITH, UNITED AIRLINES PBLOT FROM SEATTMY, WN., WHO ALSO REPORTED
fs

SEEING FLYING DISCS. THIS INTERVIEW TOOK PLACE AT THE WaQGER WINTHROP
HOTEL ON THE AFTERNOON OF JULY (RRMMMM THIRTYFIRST LAST. CAPTAIN
DAVIDSON AND LT. BROWN WERE RETURNING TO HAMILTON FIELD FOR AIRFORCE
DAY AND HAD WITH THEM SOME OF THE DISC FRAGMENTS AS REPORTED BY DAHL
AND CRISMAN»

a REPORTER PAULY LANTZ OF TACOMA TIMES, AND UNITED PRESS
WIREMAN TEDAMORELLO OF TACOMA, RECEIVED ANONYMOUS PHONE CALLS JULY
THIRTYFIRST AND AUGUST FIRST LAST REGARDING THE MEETING AT THE WINTHROP
HOTEL OWER THE DISCS FRAGMENTS AND THAT THE B- TWENTYFIVE WHICH
CRASHED THE MORNING OF Mmm AUGUST ONE WAS @@™® SABOTAGED OR SHOT DOWN.
INFORMATION AS YET NOT VERIFIED INDICATED THE ENTIRE STORY STARTED BY
DAHL AND CRISMAN POSSIBLY TO PROMOTE SALE OF SLAG FOUND IN A GRAVEL
PIT ON MAURY ISLAND, WN. NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE AS YET AS TO THE
IDENTITY OF THE INDIVIDUAL WHO MADE THE ANONYMOUS PHONE CALL TO THE
TACOMA TIMES AND THE UNITED PRESS, DAHL AND CRISMAN WILL BE INTER-
VIEWED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. INVESTIGATION CONTINUING.

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REURTEL AUGUST TWELVE. IT IS N M INTERROGATION OF EMLDSMITH,
SMITH CLAIMS THAT DURING THE CONFER ON JULY THIRTY ONE THAT DARL
ANDYCHRISMAN APPARENTLY REPEATED THEIR FALSE STORY ABOUT THE MATERIAL
BEING FRAGMENTS OF A FLYING DISC AND ONLY ON SATURDAY NIGHT AUGUST
SECOND DID DAHL ADMIT THAT THE STORY WAS A HOAX. IF SUCH IS THE CASE

IT WOULD APPEAR EITHER SMITH Of aeROLD MADE THE ANONYMOUS PHONE CALLS
SINCE NOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER THE IMPRESSION AT THAT TIME THAT THE
MATERIAL FURNISHED TO CAPTAIN DAVIDSON AND LIEUTENANT BROWN WAS ACTUALLY
PARTS OF A FLYING DISC. IT WOULD ALSO -APFEAR THAT DAHL AND CHRISMAN

DID NOT ADMIT THE HOAX TO THE ARMY INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS BECAUSE IF THEY
HAD DONE SO THE OFFICERS PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE 'HE ALLEGED FRAGH.
WITH THEM ON THEIR FATAL FLIGHT. THIS MATTER SHOULD BE CLEARED UP UPON
REINTERVIEW WITH DAHL AND CHRISMAN. WHEN THIS POINT CLARIFIED NO FURTHER

INVESTIGATION NECESSARY.

August 1, 1917

Mrse Arthur Douglass Anderson
16 Medbury Road
Springhaven, Chester, feapayivanis

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This will acknowledge receipt of your letter dated
July 9, 19h7-

After a careful review of the contents of this letter
it was ascertained that the inforsation contained therein woaid
probably be of interest to the War Department, therefore, J have
taken the liberty of furnishing this information to that agency.

Your interest in writing as you did is indeed appreatated.

Sincerely yours,

John Bdgar Hooyer
Director _.

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ear lirs, Sarbanis:

I wish to acknowledge receipt of your letter and enclosure dated
duly 10, 19:7.

I have inotructed the Special Agent in Charge of our New York Office
to have a Special Agent call upon you for the purpose of obtaining further
infornat: in eomnection with this matter.

our interest in calling this information to my attention te indeed
appreciated.

incerely yours,

John Edgar Hoover
Director

ce = Now York (With iAPemin;. There is no identifiable infonns
files of ‘the Bureau concerning the writer of this Satter: The
decoding of the message on the newspaper cl ng was referred
to the Laboratory, who subsequently advised that the writer's
decoding was substantially correct. There being set forth
below the results of the Laboratory's decodin

“TIRED. OF HUMAN T AWAIT ATOMIC
VAR DISRU. ORDER § I {SO SENT
FLYING DIS#

UNDE ARTIANS 1

The New York Office should intervier the-wri ter of this letter
to ascertain trem what newspaper the clipping in question was
obtained. Thereafter, contact should be. made with this newspaper ce
to ascertain the identity of the, pergoncwho sent in the coded

raat message. This ind gual must be thoroughly interrogated to obtain
eS ge surrounding the. alleged receipt of the
¥ ‘ should promptly advised of the results
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AUL 22 1947) PM]
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Office Memorandum ‘© UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT

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To i f ali DATE; August 18, 1947

FROM

SUBJECT:

erence is made to Cleat telephonic conversation with the

pers carried under Washing e line

Spionage agents in the United States are under
eflying discs. Such instructions re believed
the assumption that the flying discs were a secre eapon
of the Army or Navy. The article attributed the source of i information
to a Federal investigative agency,

Pur t to your instructions, liais i ntatives Na
adquarters of Military Intelligence, > Headquarters Air
of Naval Intelligence anc G Alls 3 ied any
knowle flying 8, as well as any knowledge of 2 basis for this
article

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Office Memorandum * UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT

BUREAU DATE: 823-47
: C, PORTLAND

FLYING DISCS _
SECURITY MATTER - X

The following investigation was conducted at Canyonville and
Myrtle Creek, Oregon on August 12, 1947.

RAY qasan a awe Route 1, Box 195, Roseburg, Oregon, operator
of the Tri City Airport, Myrtle Creek, Oregon, advised that on 8-6-47 at
approximately 6:15 PM while instructing a student in a take off at the airport,
he noticed an object east of Myrtle Creek which appeared to be from 5,000 to
8,000 feet in the air. The sky was completely clear and visibility was
excellent. He stated that the object glistened and appeared to be of aluminium
sheeting. Upon noticing it he had immediately taken over the controls of the
plane which at that time was at 400 feet, and proceeded East in an attempt to
further observe the object. He advised that the object appeared to be
climbing and traveling East at a high rate of speed which he estimated on a
computer in his plane as 1,000 miles per hour. He believed the object to be
spherical in shape and recalled noticing a darker object to the right the first
time he saw it. He observed no vapor trails nor did he hear any noise from the
object. After searching the area for approximately 10 minutes HATFIELD and
his student NOBLEXELLISON returned to the airport and made another landing and
take off. In practically the same position at 400 feet altitude, both ELLISON
and HATFIELD saw the object in approximately the same position as seen before.
He estimated the sphere to be 30 feet in diameter and stated when they first
observed it it appeared to be so near he could fly right to it. However, the
object sighted the second time disappeared in the same manner as the first had.

It is noted that HATFIELD served as a Lieutenant JG in the U. S. Naval
Air Corps for about 34 years, flying constantly on the Atlantic submarine patrol.
He is a reputable citizen in Douglas County and is reported to be a qualified
pilot.

Mr. NOBLE ELLISON, Myrtle Creek, Oregon, verified the above information
as furnished by HATFIELD, stating that the first object sighted had been
called to his attention when HATFIELD took over the controls of the plane at
about 400 feet following his take off, but that they had both sighted the
object on the second take off at the same time. ELLISON described the object
as a "silver ball or balloon" which he believed to be 8 miles east of Myrtle
Creek, traveling East, and climbing very fast until it disappeared in approximately
45 secondse ELLISON estimated the sphere as being 50 feet in diameter and
stated in his opinion the second object appeared to climb straight up.

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He advised that he did not observe any evidence of motion such as
vapot or trails, etc. and could hear no noise over the noise of his
own shipe

Investigation in the vicinity of Myrtle Creek, Oregon, has
failed to reveal any other person sighting the objects reported by
HATFIELD and ELLISON. No further investigation is being conducted.

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DIRECTOR R! 6)
FLYING DISCS. BETWEEN NINE THIRTY AND NINE FORTY FIVE PM LAST NIGHT,
AUGUST NIMETEENTH, MR. AND MRS. He H/\HEDSTROM, THIRD AVENUE NORTH,
TWIN FALLS, IDAHO, WHILE SITTING ON TI NT PORCH WITH MRS. } 4
SCHULTZ, OBSERVED AN OBJECT RESEMBLING A FLYING SAUCER TRAVELING VERY
RAPIDLY FROM THE SOUTHWEST TO THE NORTHEAST SECTION OF THIS CITY. ABOUT
TEN MINUTES LATER, ALL OF THESE INDIVIDUALS SAW TEN SIMILAR OBJECTS
PROCEEDING RAPIDLY IN THE SAME DIRECTION IN THE M OF A TRIANGLE.
AS THIS GROUP OF OBJECTS WAS ABOUT TO DISAPPEAR IN THE OVERCAST SKY,
THREE OF THE OBJECTS ON THE FL PEELED OFF AND PROCEEDED IN A
NORTHERLY DIRECTION. THE REMAINING OBJECTS IN THE TRIANGULAR FORMATION

APPEARED TO CLOSE RANKS AND CONTINUE IN A NORTHEASTERLY DIRECTION.

J
er TO FIVE MINUTES LATER THESE INDIVIDUALS? SAUPHANOTHER @ROPRK GROUP

THREE OBJECTS PROCEEDING IN hae SQNE i EG ADON AGAIN IN ae SHAPE,
TRIANGLE. THREE TO.FIVE MINUTES LATER INFORM fANTS OBSERVED ANOTHE
VIN: ERIANGULR
FORMATION, PROCEEDING RAPIDLY IN A N STERLY ae A FEW
MINUTES LATER A LARGE GROUP OF OBJECTS ESTIMATED AT B 1 EEN THIRTY FIVE
AND FIFTY FLEW OVER THE gE IN A NORTHEASTERLY jo AGAIN IN

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TRIANGULAR FORMATION. BETWEEN TWENTY AND TWENTY FIVE MINUTES AFTER
THE LAST GROUP WAS OBSERVED, SIMILAR OBJECTS WERE NOTED COMING BACK
OVER THE CITY VERY RAPIOLY AND PROCEEDING IN A SOUTHWESTERLY DIRECTION.
, AT THIS TIME INFORMANTS STATED THE OBJECTS APPEARED IN GROUPS OF THREE,
FIVE AND SEVEN. AT THIS POINT MRS.» HEDSTROM CALLED DETECTIVE RICHARD
FRAZIER OF THE TWIN FALLS PD, A NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR, WHO ACCOMPANIED BY
Me Es ROUNDTREE AND RICHARD SCOTT, ALSO MEMBERS OF THE TWIN FALLS PD,
a reeene TO THE HEDSTROM HOME WHERE THEY OBSERVED A GROUP OF TWELVE
| OBJECTS FLYING IN FORMATION OVER THE CITY IN A SOUTHWESTERLY DIRECTION.
INFORMANTS, ALL REPUTABLE CITIZENS THIS COMMUNITY, UNABLE TO ESTIMATE
HEIGHT OF OBJECTS OR SPEED, BUT CLAIMED THEY RESEMBLED ILLUMINATED
FLYING SAUCERS. THESE INDIVIDUALS WERE OF THE OPINION THAT THE OBJECTS

OBSERVED WERE NOT THE LANDING LIGHTS OF AIRPLANES’ NOR SHOTING STARS.

NONE OF THESE OBJECTS WERE SEEN TO COME TO EARTH NEAR TWIN FALLS AND
NONE APPEARED TO BE FLYING IN AN ARC. NONE OF THESE OBSERVERS HEARD
ANY SOUND AS THE @@MK ABOVE OBJECTS PASSED OVER THE CITY. INVESTIGATION
CONTINUING IN LINE WITH BUREAU INSTRUCTIONS CONTAINED BUREAU BULLETIN
NO. FORTY TWO, PARAGRAPH B, DATED JULY THIRTY LAST. IN EVENT BUREAU

IN POSSESSION OF ANY INFORMATION CONCERNING EXPERIMENTAL ACTIVITIES ON

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PART OF ARMY AIR FORCES WHICH MAY EXPLAIN THESE PHENOMENA, ADVICE WOULD

BE GREATLY APPRE EL IT IS BELIEVED CONTINUED APPEARANCE OF SUCH
OBJECTS WITHOUT OFFICIAL EXPLANATION MAY RESULT IN HYSTERIA OR PANIC
TWIN FALLS, IDAHO.

BANISTER
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WASH DC WJR

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FLYING DISCS. EXTENSIVE INQUIRIES AT ARMY AIR FORCES REVEAL THAT NO RESEARCH

OR EXPERIMENTS WERE BEING CONDUCTED BY AAF IN THE VICINITY OF TWIN FALLS, IDAHO

ON OR ABOUT AUGUST NINETEEN. IN THE EVENT YOUR SOURCES IN THE ARMY, NAVY OR

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Office Memorandum * UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
i and

TO : D. M. Ladd DATE: August 22, 1947 ,.

FROM
SUBJECT:

eference is made the teletype from the Butte Field Division
dated August 20, 1947, in the above captioned matter.

In accordance wi.
y Air Fi Lieutenant ¢ » advis
i uiries withthe Amy
moor % at Au, 19, 1:
Gar he had no information which would throw any

light on the matter reported in the teletype.

It is suggested + morandum be routed to the Internal §
to the at tion pervisor Fletcher,

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270 NOV 18 1964

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[STANDARD FORM NO. 64 .

Office Memorandum * UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT

T Director DATE: September 5, 1947
SAC, Portland

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suBjEcT: “FLYING DISCS
SECURITY MATTER - X

eee is made to my teletype dated August 15, 1947 advising that

a Mr. J ETT of Agate Beach, Oregon had reported on August 7, 1947 that he
sighted-what he believed to be a disc. Mr. JOHN BARTL, instead of BARTLETT, now
residing in Newport, Oregon was interviewed by Special Agent ROBERT J. PETTYJOHN.
Mr, BARTL stated that on August 7, 1947 he was residing at Agate Bach, Oregon and
that his house was very near the ocean beach; that at about 12:30 A,

awakened by his son coming in and that while awake he noticed a bright gl

light across the sky out over the ocean. He stated that he immediately thought of
flying discs and thought this might be one of the discs.

Mr. BARTL went on to say that he had no idea as to the shape or size of
this object but that it appeared to be about five miles out over the ocean and
that he was able to see it for about 15 to 30 seconds. He further stated that
due to the darkness he could tell nothing about the speed of this object but thought
it was traveling a great deal faster than any airplane he had ever seen. He —
informed that this glow of light was somewhat similar to "The Northern Light" which
sometimes appears in the sky but of course not nearly as large and that it appeared
to be going up and down, that is fluctuating in altitude as it traveled along. He
stated it disappeared in the west, either falling into the ocean or disappearing
over the horizon. He could give no other information concerning this object of
light reported by him as possibly being a flying disc. Mr. BARTL has an Agate and
Myrtlewood shop in Newport.

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a. r 2, 1947

Wiliions
Bast Stevenson Street
orence, Alabana

Dear + Williams:

Your letter of August 18, 13947, has been
recetved, and I am most appreciative of the thought-
fulness which prompted you to communicate with me.

information, no reward kas been offered by

e Se Government Agency jor the location of
* regret that I an unable to be
tn thie inetance.

jincerely yours,

John Edgar Hoover
Director

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"STANDARD FORM NO. 64

Office Mem andun. ». UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT

TO : Director, FBI DATE: August 20, 1947
FROM \: SAC, Springfield

SUBJECT: herxme vise

Reference is made to Bureau Bulletin No. 42, Series 1947, dated
July 30, 1947 re the above.

For the Bureau's information a lis. JUNE{ANDERSON of Saybrook,
Illinois reported to this office the finding of a flying disc
in her front yard at 6:00 AsM. on duly 26, 1947.

It appears from investigation conducted by an Agent of this
office that the stability of JUNE ANDERSON is questionable, How-
ever the alleged flying disc was obtained and it is apparently
the concoction of some of the juveniles in the area. It is an
old wooden platter, which has assembled on it a silver plate, a
spark plug, a timer, and some old brass tubing. Photographs
were taken of the sam and there are six views enclosed herewith.

No doubt this was someone's idea of a prank.

The dise is presently being retained by the Springfield Office and
will be retained pending receipt of bureau advice relative to its
destruction. The thought in retaining it was that perhaps the
Bureau might desire to have it transmitted to Washington for any
novel value it might haves sa

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620-1445
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Enclosure - To Bureau

Photographs of "Flying Disc" found
at Saybrook, Ill. 7-26-47

SI File 62-0-1445

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3 LG Found Saybrook, Ill. 7-26-47

age "Flying Dise"
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Found Saybrook, Ill. 7-26-47

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Found Saybrook, Ill. 7-26-47

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Found Saybrook, Ill. 7-26-47

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Found Saybrook, Ill., 7-26-47

SAC, Springfield September 5, 1947
Director, FBI

FLYING DISC

With reference to your letter, dated August 20, 1947, it is desired
that you contact the appropriate Army officials and in the event they are not
interested in receiving this alleged flying disc, it may be destroyed,

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Office Memorandum * UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT

TO : DIRECTOR DATE: 9-13-47
yom : SAC, PORTLAND

SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS
SECURITY MATTER - X

Reference is made to my teletype dated 9-4-47, advising that
Mrse RAYMONDADUPUIS , Oswego, Oregon, was reported to have seen a number
of discs on 9-3-47 above Oswego.

Mrs. DUPUIS was interviewed and described the object which she
has observed as follows:

While entertaining her 7 year old son and 10 year old neighbor
child on her lawn, at about noon, Mrs. DUPUIS and the children noticed
approximately two dozen round silver objects high in the sky. Mrs. DUPUIS
stated she believed these objects to have been platter shaped. rather than
spherical and to have been considerably larger than an airplane of the cub
type which was flying in a different portion of the sky at the same time.
She advised that these objects appeared to her to be at a great distance
and constructed of some white metallic material.

Mrs. DUPUIS' attention was first drawn to the objects by an ex-
planation from one of the children to the effect that the airplane was sky-
writing. The objects were grouped in approximately an arc about level with
the sun and to the left of the sun as viewed by Mrs. DUPUIS. They did not
change positions during the 3 or 4 minutes which she pbserved them but some
of the larger of the objects appeared to rotate rapidly in the manner of a
wheel. One of the objects was separated by considerable distance from the
main group and while she was watching Mrs. DUPUIS states this object began
to fall and floated slowly downward until it was no longer visable because
of trees on the horizon.

Mrs. DUPUIS advised that she continued to observe the remaining
objects until her eyes began to be affected by the brightness of the sky
whereupon she went into her house and is unable to state wh became of the
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To : MR. D. M. IADD Le DATE: September 8, 1947

FROM :  E. G. Fitch
SUBJECT: Sry DIscs

Reference is made to my memorandum to you in the above captioned
matter dated August 22, 1947, which indicates that Special Agent Griffee
of the Liaison Section had contacted Lieutenant Colonel G. D. Garrett, Jr.,
of the Air Forces Intelligence at which time Colonel Garrett advised that i
the Amy Air Forces were comlucting no research or experiments in the epee
vicinity of Twin Falls, Idaho, on or about August 19, 1947. Colonel Garrett~@ y
at that time indicated to Mr. Griffee that he would check with the Amy area yy
in order to ascertain whether or not they were conducting any experiments in
this vicinity at that time.

Colonel Garrett has subsequently advised Mr. Reynolds that he has
been advised by the Army area that no such experiments were being conlucted
in the area of Twin Falls, Idaho, on or about August 19, 1947, which would
in any way throw any light on the matter reported in the teletype.

RECOMMENDATION

It is recommenied this memorandum be forwarded to Mr. Fle r
of the Internal Security Section.

P ic47 ¢,

September 25, 1947

Mr. A. Courtney Parker
Superintendent of Schools
South Royalton, Vermont

Dear Mr. Parker:

I wish to acknowledge receipt of your letter dated
September 17, 1947. An Agent of our Albany, New York, Office
will call upon you in the near future for any additional in-
formation in your possession.

Your courtésy and interest in bringing this matter
to my attention are indeed appreciated,

Sincerely yours,

John Edgar Hoover
Director

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FIYING DISCS
Ae Courtney Parker, Informant

Attached hereto are copies of an incoming commmication from A.
Courtney Parker, Superintendent of Schodls, South Royalton, Vermont, and
copies of acknowledgment of same,

Tt is requested that an Agent of your Office call on Mr. Parker
to obtain any additional information in his possession concerning flying
discs,

mcssur es

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DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION
ORANGE - WINDSOR- DISTRICT
A. COURTNEY PARKER, Superintendent

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ROYALTON TUNBRI

SOUTH ROYALTON

September 17, 1

Federal Bureau of Investigation
Washington, D. C.
Dear Sirs:

At 3:40 P.M. to-day I observed a so-called flying
saucer. This occurred while I was half way up Rix Ledges
north of Lebanon, N. H. As I was intently watching the
honey bees circling in a patch of sky after leaving my
bee box my attention was called to a floating object that
appeared to be as large as a tennis ball and as white as
cotton batting. This object approached rapidly and noiselessly
from the East and was followed closely by another object
that appeared in size ar s is like a saucer which maintained
a constant angle of inclination to the ball and followed it
at a constant distance. Tne two objects made an angle with
my eye of approximately five degrees. Tney were in my vision
for more than a minute wnen I lost them in the glare of the
sune

If I had seen this in tne night sky with my six inch
telescope I would have thought that the planets Venus and

Saturn nad suddenly gotten together and were traveling i

much nearer tne Sent L=0 IC 7¢ IS

Very truly yours h4/

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F : SAC, Phoenix
syaject: REPORTS OF FLYING DISCS i

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ATTENTION: ASSISTANT DIRECTOR D. M. LADD pe

Reference is made to San Francisco letter dated August 28, 1947,
and to Bureau teletype to Phoenix dated August 30, 1947.

With reference to the above matter, I desire to point out that the &. x
letter of reference from San Francisco did not reach Phoenix until September i
2, 1947.

On August 29, 1947, a Mr. GEORGE FUGATE, JR. called at the Phoenix
office and exhibited credentials reflecting that he is a representative of A-25
Fourth Air Force, Hamilton Field, California. He also exhibited orders emanat:

California, instructing him to proceed to Phoenix immediately and contact the ]
office, at which time a Special Agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation wo
accompany him to interview WILLIAR ES, who had previously
“reported ‘the Photographing of a flying disc. The orders further indicated that
“the San Francisco office of the FBI was transmitting further information re-
lating to Mr. FUGATE'S mission.

ASAC HEBER M. CLEGG telephonically communicated with SAC HARRY KDMBAI
of the San Francisco office and Mr. KIMBALL verified the above information and*
stated that a letter had been directed to the Fhoenix office suggesting that the”
Phoenix office assist any representative who called from A-2 in the interrogation”
of RHODES. SAC KIMBALL stated that in connection with flying discs, he had maj
tained close contact with Colonel SPRINGER and that close cooperation existed. ~
He further advised that many reports of flying discs had been received at San
Francisco and that a full discussion concerning the results of inquiries had
been held with Colonel SPRINGER. e

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In connection with flying disc investigations, Mr. KIMBALL advised
he had maintained close touch with the Bureau and had apparently handled these
matters in accordance with Bureau policy.

In view of the above, Special Agent J. BAILEY BROWER of the Phoenix

ee was. permitted to work with Mr. FUGATE in the interview of WILLIAM ALBERT
(ODES. The results of the inquiry are set out hereunder.
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270 NOV 18 1964

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Phoenix file 62-213

WILLIAM ALBERT RHODES, 4333 N. 14th Street, Phoenix, Arizona, owns
and maintains the Panoramic Research Laboratory and Hobby Shop at this address,
and he related the following as occurring on the afternoon of July 7, 1947: ~

A storm had occurred in Phoenix on the afternoon of July 7, 1947,
and the clouds were at approximately 5000 feet, the color of which was grey
and they resembled dense cumulus. A fifteen mile per hour wind was blowing.
At approximately 5 p.m. on that date, Mr. RHODES was walking from his home
to the Hobby Shop and he heard a noise resembling a P-80 aircraft, apparently
coming in a westerly direction. Upon searching the skies he observed to the
northeast what appeared to be an odd shaped ship. He described this ship as
being possibly 20 to 30 feet in diameter, traveling at an estimated speed of
100 miles per hour. It appeared to be making a spiral in a small radius of
possibly one-half to three quarters of a mile. RHODES stated the sound which
he first heard was no longer audible; that he hurriedly procured a 120 Brownie
Box Camera from his shop, and as the aircraft completed the first circle he
obtained a photograph. As the ship started on the second turn, it was ina
northwesterly direction from his place and he again snapped a photograph, which
more closely resembled the shape of the ship than photograph #1, this being
designated as Exhibit II, as submitted to the Bureau with letter dated August
4, 1947, by the Office of Assistant Chief of Staff A=-2 Intelligence, Hamilton
Field, California. RHODES further described the direction of the ship by
stating that instead of completing the lefthand downward spiral the ship banked
to the right and disappeared into the clouds. He stated that just as it banked,
he had snapped the second photograph, Exhibit II.

At the last point, which was at the time the ship made this turn, Mr.
RHODES estimated it to be between 1,000 and 2,000 feet high. He further des-
eribed the appearance of this ship as closely resembling a picture which appeared
on the front cover of the May, 1947, issue of the Mechanics Illustrated Magazine,
the only difference noted by Mr. RHODES being that the ship appeared to be fly-
ing backward.

Mr. RHODES also related that he did not associate the appearance of
this ship with the numerous reports of flying discs. He related, however, that
after a three minute interview with newspaper reporters the story that appeared
in the local papers was "blown up" to the extent that he, RHODES, barely recog-
nized the information furnished by him. Mr. RHODES explained that the afore-
mentioned dimensions and distances were only estimated, pointing out, that his
previous experience probably assisted him in making fairly.close estimates. He
related that he had been doing experimental work for the past ten years. He
also stated he was employed at the Naval Ordnance Laboratory, Washington, D. C.
during the early part of World War II and left there the beginning of 1942.

Upon his return to Phoenix, he was employed at Falcon Field near Phoenix which

was leased by the British Government for training purposes. He instructed in
instrument training, aircraft identification and gunnery practice. He explained
that his hobbies have to do with science, physics, radio, electronics and astronomy.
He produced a model which he had made of a radio controlled airplane. He related
that most of his work consists of building transformers, but it is also necessary

for him to depend upon his music ability for his livlihood.
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Phoenix file 62-213

In explaining the results of photographing the ship, Mr. RHODES
stated that he was surprised that the object appeared dark on a light back-
ground; that he fully expected that the object would be light on a dark back-
ground. He described the light spot which appears in the center of the object
(Exhibit II) as being a green house. RHODES insisted that the ship made no
noise that was audible to his ear and he was unable to detect the presence of
any propeller. He also related that after the newspaper release over Radio
Station KTAR, wherein statements were made that he, RHODES, had stated Army
officials were studying the photographs, and that it was a top secret, he
attempted to determine the source of this release and the Radio station finally
told him that it was a United Press release from Washington, D. C.

The following description of RHODES was obtained from observation
and interrogation:

Age 30

Date birth 12-29-16

Place birth Garden City, Kansas
Height 6! 3"

Weight 155 pounds

Eyes Blue

Hair Brown

Education Phoenix Union High School
Marital status Married- one son

It should be stated that at the time of interview with RHODES, Mr.
BROWER identified himself as an agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and
exhibited his credentials. However, pursuant to a request from Mr. FUGATE, he
was introduced only as a representative of the United States government. His
exact official connection was not made known to Mr. RHODES. Agent BROWER advised
that he felt it was a peculiar procedure, but it was not his business. However,
at the conclusion of the interview, Mr. FUGATE requested Mr. RHODES to furnish
hin with the negatives and RHODES stated he would be glad to do so, but they
were not in his immediate possession, and he would deliver them to the FBI the
following morning. Mr. RHODES requested that the negatives be returned to him,
Agent BROWER states that to this request, Mr. FUGATE made no reply. Agent BROWER
states that after leaving Mr. RHODES he asked FUGATE if the negatives would be
returned to Mr. RHODES and FUGATE stated that he doubted very much that they would)
be returned. Mr. BROWER then advised Mr. FUGATE that before he, BROWER, would
accept these negatives that RHODES must be advised of Mr. FUGATE'S identity and
also advised that the negatives, if turned over to Mr. FUGATE, would not be
returned to him.

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In view of which, on the morning on August 30, 1947, when Mr. RHODES
called at the Phoenix office todeliver the negatives, they were accepted only
after he was advised that they were being given to Mr. FUGATE, a representative
of the Army Air Foree Intelligence, United States Army, and that there was little,
if any, chance of his getting the negatives back. Mr. RHODES turned the negatives
over to this office with the full understanding that they were being given to the
Army and that he would not get them back.

The Phoenix office did not receive the Bureau teletype of reference
instructing that no joint investigation should be conducted until after the
matter had been handled.

Inasmuch as military authorities have complete knowledge of the results

of the interview with Mr. RHODES no copy of this report is being designated for
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In answer to a verbal request of your Mr.

s. Reynolds, a complete survey of research activities

discloses that the Army Air Forces has no project with
the characteristics similar to those which have been
associated with the Flying Discs.

Yours sincerely,

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Brigadier General, U.S.A.
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TO : De M. LADD pate: 9/16/47

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suBjecT: FLYING Discs ‘

Special Agent S. W. Reynolds of the Liaison Section hag dis-
cussed with Lieutenant Colonel George Garrett of the Intelligence
Division of the Air Forces the possibility that the flying discs or
saucers are in fact a project of the Army Air Forces. It should be noted
that Colonel Garrett agreed with this possibility, At that time Mr. Reynolds
Pointed out te Colonel Garrett the possible embarrassing position of the
Intelligence Division of the Air Forces if it was subsequently ascertained
that this was the truth, especially since they hai requested the assistance
of the Bureau in the captioned matter,

BS RREESSEBREEREEE

Colonel Garrett advised Mr. Reynolds that he would institute a
further search, and he has now advised that a letter was aidressed by Major
General McDonald, Director of the Intelligence Division of the Air Forces, to
the Research and Development Section of the Air Forces.

There is attached hereto a letter aidressed to the Director, dated
September 5, 1947, from Brigafier General George F. Sclmigen, which states that
@ complete survey of research activities discloses that the Army Air Forces

have no project with characteristics similar to those which have been associated
with the flying discs.

RECOMMENDATION:

It is recommended that this memorandum be forwarded to the Internal
Security Section for their information.

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BJECT: MEPORTS OF FLYING DISCS

SECURITY MATTER - X
Refer San Francisco letter dated September 4, 1947.

FRED YeCJOHNSON, Globe Hotel, 106 NW. First Avenue, Portland, reported
without consulting any records that on June 24, 1947, while prospecting at a
point in the Cascade Mountains approximately five thousand feet from sea level,
during the afternoon he noticed a reflection, looked up, and saw a disc pro-
ceeding in a southeasterly direction. Immediately upon sighting this object
he placed his telescope to his eye and observed the disc for approximately
forty-five to sixty seconds. He remarked that it is possible for him to pick
up an object at a distance of ten miles with his telescope. At the time the
disc was sighted by Mr. JOHNSON it was banking in the sun, and he observed
five or six similar objects but only concentrated on one. He related that
they did not fly in any particular formation and that he would estimate their
height to be about one thousand feet from where he was standing. He said the
object was about thirty feet in diameter,and appeared to have a tail. it made
no noise.

According to JOHNSON he remained in the vicinity of the Cascades
for several days and then returned to Portland and noted an article in the
local paper which stated in effect that a man in Boise, Idaho, had sighted a
similar object but that authorities had disclaimed any knowledge of such an
object. He said he communicated with the Army for the sole purpose of attempt-
ing to add credence to the story furnished by the man in Boise.

JOHNSON also related that on the occasion of his sighting the objects
on June 24, 1947 he had in his possession a combination compass and watch. He
noted particularly that immediately before he sighted the disc the compass
acted very peculiar, the hand waving from one side to the dther, but that this
condition corrected itself immediately after the discs had passed out of sight.

Informant appeared to be a very reliable individual who advised that
he had been a prospector in the states of Montana, Washington, and Oregon for
the past forty years.

FJS:KAM
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Special Agent S. We Reynolds of the Liaison Section, while dis- i;.2 ——
cussing the above captioned phenomena with Lieutenant Colonel7Carrett
of the Air Forces Intelligence, expressed the possibility that flying
discs were, in fact, a very highly classified experiment of the Army or \\
INavye Mr. Reynolds was very much surprised when Colonel Garrett not onl;
‘agreed that this was a possibility, but confidentially stated it was his
personal opinion that such was a probability. Colonel Garrett indicated
confidentially that a Mr arroll, who is 4 scientist attached to the Air of
Forces Intelligence, was of the same opinion. a és

Colonel Garrett stated that he based his assumption on the
following: He pointed out that when flying objects were reported seen over
Sweden, the "high brass" of the War Department exerted tremendous pressure
on the Air Forces Intelligence to conduct research and collect information
in an effort to identify these sightings. Colonel Garrett stated that, in
contrast to this, we have reported sightings of unknown objects over the
United States, and the "high brass" appeared to be totally unconcerned.
He indicated this led him to believe that they knew enough about these
objects to express no concern, Colonel Garrett pointed out further that the
objects in question have been seen by many individuals whoare what he
terms "trained observers," such as airplane pilots, He indicated also that
several of the individuals are reliable members of the community. He stated
it is his conclusion that these individuals saw something. He stated the
above has led him to come to the conclusion that there were objects seen
which somebody in the Government knows all about.

Mr. Reynolds pointed out to Colonel Garrett that if it is a fact
experimentations are being conducted by the United States Government, then it
does not appear reasonable to request the FBI to spend money and precious
time conducting inquiries with respect to this matter. Colonel Garrett stated
that he agreed with Mr. Reynolds in this regard and indicated that it would be
extremely embarrassing to the Air Forces Intelligence if it later is learned
that these flying discs are, in fact, an experiment of the United States
Governments

Mr. Reynolds subsequently discussed this matter with Colonel L, Re
Forney of the Intelligence Division of the War Department. Colonel Forney
stated that he had discussed the matter previously with General Chamberlin.
Colonel Forney indicated to Mr. Reynolds that he has the assurance of General

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Chamberlin and General Todd that the Army is conducting no experimentations
with anything which could possibly be mistaken for a flying disc.

Colonel Garrett of the Air Forces Intelligence subsequently contacted

Mr. Reynolds and indicated that he had discussed this matter with General
Schulgen of the Army Air Forces, General Schulgen had previously assured both
Mr. Reynolds and Colonel Garrett that to the best of his knowledge and in-
formation no experiments were being undertaken by the Government which could be
mistaken for flying discs. Colonel Garrett indicated to Mr. Reynolds that
he had pointed out his beliefs to General Schulgen and had mentioned the
possibility of an embarrassing situation arising between the Air Forces
Intelligence and the FBI. General Schulgen agreed with Colonel Garrett
bat a memorandum would be prepared for the signature of General McDonald,

to General LeMay, who is in charge of Research and Development in the
Agr Corps. Colonel Garrett indicated that this memorandum will set forth
ae characteristics of the objects seen by various reliable individuals.

6 memorandum will then request General LeMay to indicate whether or not

yy experiments are being undertaken by the Air Forces which could possibly
Ife” connected with any of the observed phenomena. Colonel Garrett stated
that when a reply is received from General. LeMay, a communication will be
addressed to the Bureau,

Mr. Reynolds will follow this matter closely with Colonel Garrett
and General Schulgen so that the Bureau will be promptly advised of all
information regarding the flying discs, especially any information indicating
that they are, in fact, an experiment of some Governmental agency.

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Reference is made to the memorandum to you from the Liaison
Section dated July 21, 1947, setting forth a request from Colonel
Golbranson of the Intelligence Division of the War Department for the
Bureau to conduct investigation to determine the origin of the flying
discs.

OBSERVAT IONSs

It is felt % the situation regarding these flying saucers and
flying discs is very similar to the situation which was previously encountered
by the Bureau during the past war in handling complaints arising out of the
sighting of Japanese baloons. You will recall that at the inception of these
complaints the Bureau conducted considerable investigation and located numerous
baloons as a cooperative measure for the Army and tI after considerable work
had been done, the Army then informed that these were military weapons and that
they would take over the handling of these completely. This they did and in an
extremely short time issued a big press release as to the splendid work of the
Army in locating these Japanese baloons. From information available thus
far, it does not appear that these discs should be treated other than as a |
military weapon. Certainly the Bureau has no way to determine what experiments)
the Army and Navy are conducting and whether such might be arising out of j

experiments being conducted by them nor do we have any way of determining how |
far the Russians have progressed in certain experiments and whether such might)
be the results of experiments by the Russian Army. It short, it would cértat
appear that this is a military situation and should be handled strictly ty
military authorities. %

that our present Portland
Intel officers were returning
report: had seen flying discs. If
andling some of these interviews, it is be-
all of these interviews, and it is not
xpending its precious manpower on these com-

ng for than we are and have more facilities for handlin any material which
it is necessary to examine as a result of its bi 1p a remant of a
i disc It is believed that the Bureau is bird-dog for the
manpower to run out these com ts on flying discs.

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there is attached a letter to the Chicago Office asking that3wheF— Bon dulGti 7t he
requested investigation. ey

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October 3, 1947

Mra. Joseph H. Ryan
Bieber, California

Dear Mrs. Ryans

Receipt is acknowledged of your letter
dated September 19, 1947, requesting information
concerning the origin of the "Flying Sauger -
Mystery".

2ECNKI,

In this connection, you are @avised >!
that in view of a long established policy I am
unable to furnish the results of investigations
ty this Bureau to other than Governmental sources.
For this reason I regret that I am unable to
answer your question, but I appreciate your
interest in writing to me in this regard.

Sincerely yours,

John Edgar Hoover
Director

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September 4,

Director, FBI Attention: FBI Laboratory
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Re: Mrs. A. @,) BARE IS, Informant

Dear Sir:

Reference is made to Bureau lette ted July 21, 1947, addressed
to Mrs. A. G. SARBANIS, 66 Notre Dame Avenue, Hicksville, ong Island, New
York, a copy of which was sent to the New York Office.

Mrs. SARBANIS was interviewed by Special Agent William A. Johnson
on August 12, 1947, at which time she advised that this coded message had
appeared in "Newsday," the local newspaper of Nassau and Suffolk County,
Long Island, New York. She stated that the message had appeared in the
“County Irritant," a feature of this paper, and had been signed "Radio Ham."

Mr. JACK ALTSCHUL, City Editor of "Newsday," Hempstead, New York,
was interviewed and a dyieed that this article had been sent to the newspaper
by letter which was signed "Radio Ham," and explained that he had no way of
determining the identity of the writer. Mr. ALTSCHUL stated that it was his
opinion that the code had been made up by some local "screwball" who had
been affected by all ofthe newspaper publicity that had been given at that
time to the story about™flying discs.

There is enclosed an article appearing in the July 12th issue of
"Newsday" concerning this coded message, which might be of interest in this
matter.

Unless advised to the contrary, no further effort is being made
to establish the identity of the person who signed himself "Radio Ham."

Very truly yo rs,

Cinant. Aebedt

EDWARD SCHEIDT,

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Office Memorandum ¢* UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT

TO : Mr. J. P. Coy pate: 9/17/17
FROM : We Vy Clevelanayys

suBjecT: Mrs. A. @\Sarbanis
Informant

You will recall that a letter was received from the
above captioned individual dated July 10, 197, in which she
inclosed a newspaper clipping signed "Radio Ham." This news-
paper clipping contained a coded message which Mrs. Sarbanis
decoded. The FBI Laboratory checked Mrs. Sarbanis' decoding of
this message and advised that it was substantially correct. The
Laboratory's decoding of the message is being set forth below:

iS ZRRSERSERERSERER

Miss Gandy,

DISRUPTING ORDEF R SY ( SO 8, FLYING
ND WILL SET UP WORLD ORDER ER MARTIANS
HIS YEAR."

The New York Office was asked to interview Mrs. Sarbanis to
determine from what newspaper the clipping in question was obtained.
They were further instructed to contact this newspaper in an effort
to ascertain the identity of the person who sent in the coded message,
in order that the person might be interviewed for information m@ ncerning
the alleged receipt of the coded message.

By letter dated September ), 197, the New York Office
advised that they had ascertained from Mrs. Sarbanis that the coded
message had appeared in "Newsday," the local newspaper of Nassau and
Suffolk County, Long Island, New York. The City Editor of this news-
paper stated that the original had been signed only "Radio Ham" and
knew of no way of determining the identity of the writer. It was the
City Editor's opinion that the code had been made up by some local
"screwball" who had been affected by all of the newspaper publicity
that had been given to stories concerning "flying discs."

The FBI Laboratory has now advised that the FCC maintains
their amateur records by a geographical breakdown as well as by call
letters and that the Laboratory could possibly get the names of all
amateurs in the Bellmore, Long Island, New York Section in the event
it is desired that another attempt be made to identify the person who
sent this coded message to the "News an

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RECOL DATION: It is recommended ong further action be taken in
if

connection with this matter in view opinion expressed by the
City Editor of the "Newsday" that the letter reveivee*by him signed
"Radio Ham" was from some local "Screwball."

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Office Memorandum *_ UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT

TO : Director, FBI = Attention: Assistant DATE: July 28, 1947

Director D. M. LADD >SN
FROM : SAC, San Francisco pci

SUBJECT: FLYING DIScs

There is transmitted herewith for the information of the Bureau
a report received from Lieutenant Colonel DONALD L. SPRINGER, A-2, Hamilton Field,
California, containing the results of an investigation by his office concerning
the reported sighting of flying discs.

In addition to containing the detailed descriptions of what was
allegedly seen by several persons, the Bureau's attention is particularly called
to the first memorandum setting forth the notes of Agent FRANK M. |BROWN, CIC,
Fourth Air Force, concerning an interviow he had with Mr. KENNETH RNOLD, Box
587, Boise, Idaho, who reported that on July 12, 1947 he had seen Inine strange
objects flying over the Cascade Mountain Range of Washington State. It will be
noted that CIC Agent BROWN reports that"Mr. ARNOLD is very outspoken and somewhat
bitter in his opinions of the leaders of the United States Army Air Forces and the
FBI for not having made an investigation of this matter sooner."

The thought has occurred to me that the Bureau might desire to have
an agent of the Butte Office contact Mre ARNOLD and explain to him our lack of iD ves
Jurisdiction in such matters. vi”

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Enclosure

DECLASSIFIED

Authority:

NND 90986

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‘Hamilton Field, Celif:

‘True Flying Dises. InvesTiGATION MADE at _P! Springs, Calif...Boise,..
Idaho, and Hamilton Field, California. 4
Controtiinc orrice..Air Defense Command.

Fizz No. D33325_ID_(4AP Perio coverep From.10_Jul 47 0.18 Jul 4’
Case cuassirication --Incident
STATUS OF CASE -.. Pending

REASON FOR INVESTIGATION:

Investigation initiated at the request of Headquarters Air Defense Command
reference letter Headquarters Air Defense Command, dated 7 July 47, File D333.5 ID,
subject: Investigation of Flying Discs.

SYNOPSIS:

Flying \Pises first reported in this area 24 June 1947 near Mt. Rainier, Wash.,
by Kenneth M.s\Arnold (Incl 1, Exhibit A)

Unidentified object reported 9 July 1947 at approximately 1277 near Boise, Idaho,
by David Nal Johnson, Aviation Editor, Idaho Daily Statesman. (Incl 2, Exhibit B)

Unidentified objects reported by Capt. E. Xsmith, United Air Lines Pilot,
4 July 1947, eight minutes out of Boise, Idaho. (Incl 3 MOIC, Incl 7 News Clippings
dated 5 July 1947)

Record check of law enforcement agencies, public utilities, and local residences
revealed no record of Richard\Rankin in Palm Springs. (Inel 4)

Hamilton Field by S/Sgt Edward RA Bakery (Incl 5, Exhibit I)

Unidentified objects ord aD 8 July 1947 et 1245, traveling northeast over

Unidentified objects reported over Grand Canyon, Arizona, 0910 MST by Lt. W. G.
Ginty, USN (Incl 6) and in vicinity of Lake Mead by Lt. E. Bf Armstrong, Hq Tenth
Air-Force, Brooks Field, Texas. (Incl 6). \

Extent of publicity in local area indicated by press clippings. (Incl 7)

DistRievrion Cortes APPROVED:

LOA.
DONALD L. SPRINGER

AG of Shae

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W.D., P.M. G. Form No. 110
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(Thi form supersedes WD. 0. C- S, Form No. 19, whic
will not be used upon receipt of this revision)

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MEMORANDUM FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE:

le On 12 July 1947, Mr. Kenneth Arnold, Box 387, Boise, Idaho,
was interviewed in regard to the report by Mr. Arnold that he saw 9
strange objects flying over the Cascade Mountain Range of Washington
State on July 25th. Mr. Arnold voluntarily agreed to give the interviewer
a written report of exactly what he had geen on the above mentioned date.
The written report of Mr. Arnold is attached to this report as Exhibit A,

AGENT'S NOTES: Mr. Arnold is & man of 32 years of age, being married and
the father of two children. is well thought of in the commmity in
which he lives, being very mch the family man and from all appearances

a very good provider for his family. Mr. Arnold has recently purchased a
home on the outskirts of Boise, recently purchased a $5,000 airplane in
which to conduct his business to the extent of which is explained in the
attached exhibit. It is the personal opinion of the interviewer that Mr.
Arnold actually saw what he stated that he saw. It is difficult to believe
thet a man of Mr. Arnold's character and apparent integrity would stete
that he saw objects and write up a report to the extent that he did if he
did not see them. To go further, if Mr. Arnold can write a report of the
character that he did while not having seen the objects that he claimed he
saw, it is the opinion of the interviewer that Mr. Arnold is in the wrong
business, that he should be writing Buck Rogers fiction. Mr. Arnold is
very outspoken and somewhat bitter in his opinions of the leaders of the
U.S. Army Air Forces and the Federal Bureau of Investigation for not having
made an investigation of this matter sooner. To put all of the statements
made by Mr. Arnold in this report would make it a voluminous volume. However,
after having checked an aeronautical map of the area over which Mr. Arnold
claims that he saw the objects it was determined that all statements made by
Mr. Arnold in regard to the distances involved, speed of the objects, course
off the objects and size of the objects, could very possibly be facts. The
distances mentioned by Mr. Arnold in his report are within a short distance
of the actual distances on aeronautical charts of this area, although Mr.
Arnold has never consulted aeronautical charts of the type the Army uses.
Mr. Arnold stated that his business had suffered greatly since his report

on July 25 due to the fact that at every stop on his business routes, large
groups of people were waiting to question him as to just what he had seon.
Mr. Arnold stated further that if he, at any time in the future, sew anything
in the sky, to quote Mr. Arnold directly, “if I saw a ten story building

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flying through the air I would never say a word about it", due to the
fact that he has been ridiculed by the press to such an extent that he

is practically a moron in the eyes of the majority of the population of
the United States.

1 Incl: Exhibit "A"

FRANK M. BROWN, S/A, CIC 4th AF

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I was born March 29, 1915 in- Subelas Minnesota. My father's name was
Edward Erb Arnold; my mother" s maiden name was Bertha E. Barden. I was a
resident of Minnesota until I was six years old when my family moved to
Scobey, Montana, where they homesteaded. My frandfather, Roland ©. Arnold
also homesteaded in Scobey, Montana, and became quite prominent in political
circles along with Burton K. Wheeler, the famous Montana senatore

I went to grade school and high school at iiinot, North Dakota. I
entered scouting at twelve years of age and achieved the rank of Eagle scout
before I was fourteen. My former scout executive was H. H. Prescott, now a
regional commissioner for the Boy Scouts in Kensas City, Kansas.

As a boy, I was interested in athletics and was selected as an all-
state end in 1932 and 1933 in the state of North Dakota. I entered the
U. S. Olympic trials in fancy diving in 1952; I was @ Red Cross Life Saving
Exeminer during the years of 1932, '33 and '34. I taught swimming and diving
at scout camps and the municipal pool in Minot, North Dakota. I went to the
University of Minnesots, where I swam and did fency diving under Neils Thorpe,
and also played football under Bernie Bierman, but upon entering college I
was uneble to continue my football career beceuse of an injured kneee My
high school football coach was Glenn L. Jarrett, who is now the head football
coach of the University of North Dakota. I had little or no finances, and
my ambition in furthering my edication in college was through my’ athletics.
As a boy in Minot, North Dakota, I did e good deal of dog sled racing, placed
first with my dog in 1930 in the Lions Club Dog Derby.

In 1938 I went to work for Red Comet, Inc. of Littleton, Colorado, a
manufacturer of automatic fire fighting apparatus. In 1939 I was made
district manager for them over a part of the western states, and in 1940 I
established my own fire control supply know as the Great Western Fire
Céntrol Supply. I have been working as an independent fire control engineer
since, and I handle, distribute, sell and install all types of automatic and
manual fire fighting equipment in the rural areas over five western states.

My flying experience started as a boy in Minot, North Dakota, where
I took my first flying lesson from Earl T. Vance, who was originally from
Great Falls, Montana. Due to the high cost at that time, I was unable to
continue my flying and did not fly of any great consequence until 1943.
I was given my pilot certificate by Ed Leach, a senior CAA inspector of
Portland, Oregon, and for the last three years have owned my own airplane
covering my entire territory with same and flying from forty to one hundred
hours per month since. Due to the fact that I use an airplane entirely in
my work, in January of this year I purchased a new Callair airplane, which
is en airplane designed for high altitude take-offs and short rough field use.

In the type of flying I do, it tekes a great deal of practice and
judgment to be able to land in most any cow pasture and get out without
injuring your aiplane; the runways are very limited and the altitude is
very high in some of the fields and places I heve to go in my work. To
date, I have landed in 823 cow pastures in mountain meadows, and in over
a thousand hours a flat tire has been my greatest mishap.

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The following story of what I observed over the Cascade mountains,
as impossible as it may seem, is positively true. I never asked nor wanted
any notoriety for just accidently being in the right spot at the right time
to observe what I did. I reported something that I know any pilot would
have reported. I don't think that in any way my observation was due to any
sensivity of eye sight or judgment than what is considered normal for any pilot.

On June 24th, Tuesday, 1947, I had finished my work for the Central Air
Service at Chehalis, Washington, and at about two o'clock I took off from
Chehalis, Washington, airport with the intention of going to Yakima, Wash.

My trip was delayed for an hour to search for a large marine transport that
supposedly went down near or around the southwest side of Mt. Rainier in the
state of Washington and to date has never been found.

I flew directly toward Mt. Rainier after reaching an altitude of about
9,500 feet, which is the approximate elevation of the high plateau from which
Mt. Rainier rises. I had made one sweep of this high plateau to the westward,
searching all of the various ridges for this marine ship and flew to the west
down and near the ridge side of the canyon where Ashford, Washington, is located.

Unable to see anything that looked like the lost ship, I made a 360 degree
turn to the right and above the little city of Mineral, starting again toward
Mt. Rainier. I climbed back up to an altitude of approximately 9,200 feet.

The air was so smooth that day that it was a real pleasure flying and,
as most pilots do when the air is smooth and they are flying at a higher
altitude, I trimmed out my airplane in the direction of Yakima, Washington,
which was almost directly east of my position and simply ‘sat in my plane ob-
serving the sky and the terrain.

There was a DC-4 to the left and to the rear of me approximately
fifteen miles distance, and I should judge, at 14,000 foot elevation.

The sky and air was as clear as crystal. I hadn't flown more than
two or three minutes on my course when a bright flash reflected on my
airplanes It startled me as I thought I was too close to some other air-
crafte I looked every place in the sky and couldn't find where the reflec-
tion had come from until I looked to the left and the north of Mt. Rainier
where I observed a chain of nine peculiar looking aircraft flying from north
to south at approximately 9,500 feet elevation and going, seemingly, in a
definite direction of about 170 degrees.

They were approaching Mt. Rainier very rapidly, and I merely assumed
they were jet planes. Anyhow, I discovered that this was where the reflec-
tion had come from, as two or three of them every few seconds would dip or
change their course slightly, just enough for the sun to strike them at an
angle that reflected brightly on my plane.

These objects being quite far away, I was unable for a few seconds to
make out their shape or their formation. Very shortly they approached Mt.
Rainier, and I observed their outline against the snow quite plainly.

I thought it was very peculiar that I couldn't find their tails but
assumed they were some type of jet plane. I was determined to clock their
speed, as I had two definite points I could clock them by; the air was so
clear that it was very easy to see objects and determine their approximate
shape and size at almost fifty miles that day.

I remember distinctly thet my sweep second hand on my eight day clock,
which is located on my instrument panel, read one minute to 3 P.M. as the
first object of this formation passed the southern edge of Mt. Rainier.

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southeast down the hog's back of a mountein range. I would estimate their
elevation could heve varied a thousand feet one way or another up or dow,
but they were pretty much on the horizon to me which would indicate they
were near the same elevation as I was.

They flew like many times I have observed geese to fly in a rather
diagonal chain-like line as if they were linked together. They seemed to
hold e definite direction but rather swerved in and out of the high mountain
peaks. Their speed at the time did not impress me particularly, because I
knew thet our army and air forces had planes that went very faste

What kept bothering me as I watched them flip and flesh in the sun
right along their path was the fact that I couldn't make out any tail on
them, and I am sure that eny pilot would justify more than a second look at
such a plane.

I observed them quite plainly, and I estimate my distance from them,
which was almost at right angles, to be between twenty to twenty-five miles.
I knew they must be very large to observe their shape at that distance, oven
on as clear a day as it was that Tuesday In fact I compared a zeus fastener
or cowling tool I d in my pocket with - holding it up on them and
holdi; it up on the DC-4 - that I could observe at quite a distance to my
left, and they seemed smaller than the DC-4; but, I should judge their span
would have been as wide as the furtherest engines on each side of the
fuselage of the DC-4.

The more I observed these objects, the more upset I became, as I an
accustomed and familiar with most all objects flying whether I am close to
the ground or at higher alt jes. I observed the chain of these objects
passing another high snow-covered ridge in between Mt. Rainier and Mt. Adams,
and as the first one was passing south crest of ridge the last
object was entering the northern crest of the ridg

As I was flying in the direction of this particular ridge, I measured
it and found it to be epproximately five miles so I could safely assume that
the chain of these saucer like objects were at least five miles long. I
could quite eccurately dete ne their pathway due to the fact that there
were several hig aks thet were a little this side of them as well as
higher peaks on the other side of their pa ye

As the lest unit of this formation passed the southern most high snow-
covered crest of Mt. Adams, looked at my sweep second hand and it showed
thst they had travelled the stance in one minute and forty-two seconds.
Even at the time this timing did not upset me as I felt confident after i
would land there would be some explenetion of what I sawe

A number of news men and experts suggested that I might have been
seeing reflections or even a mirage. This I know to be absolutely false,
as I observed these objects not only through the glass of my airplane but
turned my airplane sideways where I could open my window and observe thg
with a completely unobstructed view. (Without sun glasses)

Even though two nutes seems like a very short time to one on
ground, in the air in two minutes time a pilot can observe a great
things and anything within his sight of vision probably as many 9
sixty tines.

I continued my search for e marine plane for another
twenty minutes and while searching for this marine plane, wi
observed kept going through my mind. I became more distu:
taking & last look at Tieton Reservoir I headed for Yakj

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C I might add thet my complete obseryation of these objects, which I
could even follow by their flashes as they passed Mt. Adems, was around two
and one-half or three minutes -- although, by the time they reached Mt. Adams
they were out of my range of vision es far as determining shape or form. Of
course, when the sun reflected from one or two or three of these units, they
appeared to be completely round; but, I am keing a drewing to the best of my
ability, which I am including, as to the pe I observed these objects to be
as they passed the snow covered ridges as woll as Mt. Reinior.

When these objects were flying approximately streight end level, they
were just a black thin line and when they flipped was the only time I could
get a judgment as to their size.

These objects were holding an almost eomstant elevation; they did not
seem to be going up or to be coming down, SWOM @S would be the case of rockets
or artillery shells. I am convinced in my Owm mind thet they were some type
of airplane, even though they didn't conform with the many aspects of the
conventional type of planes that I know.

Although these objects have been reported by many other observers
throughout the United States, there have beem six om seven other accounts
written by some of these observers that I can truthfully sey must have ob-
servied the sene thing thet I did; -pertieulawly, the descriptions of the three
Hostorn Aen ee ant ates, the/g eae from Oklahoma City and the locomo-
tive engineer in Illinois, plus Capt Smith and CoPilot Stevens of United Air Lines.

Some descriptions could not be very accurate: taken from the ground unless
these saucer-like disks were at quite a great height and there is a possiblity
that all of the people who observed peculiar objeets sould heve seen the same
thing I dids but, it would have been very diffigult from the ground to observe
these for more than four or five seconds, and there is always the 

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